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Oral History of
Judith C. Areen
INDEX
academic freedom
for faculty, 199–200, 283
for students, 278
Advisory Committee to the Secretary of Defense on Women and the Services, 152–53
African Americans, 32-33
Aleinikoff, T. Alexander, 149–50, 176
Alexander, Cliff, 188
Allen, Anita, 237
American Association of University Professors (AAUP), 200, 278, 283
American Bar Association (ABA), 96, 116, 200, 227, 272-73, 277, 284
legal education section, 272
American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), 21, 84-85, 87, 96
Areen, Eric (grandfather), 2
Areen, Gordon Eric (father), 1, 2, 6, 11, 14-16, 21, 26-27, 29, 36-37, 60, 288, 299
employment, 1, 4, 8–9
politics, 26–29
relationship with daughter, 4, 14–15, 306
and religion, 11–12
and WW II, 11
Areen, Judith C. – Personal
activities, 18
aunts, 307
behavior expectations, 15–16, 20–21, 34
birth, 1, 6
brother, 7, 9–10, 21
childhood, 1-2, 9, 18, 307
college preparation, 57–58
Cornell University, 21–22, 25–26, 33-52, 58, 61, 65, 72, 74, 233
activities, 76
courses, 55–57
friends, 41, 48, 50, 55
honors, 58
judiciary board, 21, 47, 54
professors, 50–51, 52, 54–55, 57, 60, 68
selection of, 36–39
sexual harassment at, 42–43, 76
and social issues, 21, 26, 52–54, 71, 85
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sorority, 33, 40-42, 48, 310-13
summer jobs
with NCR, 49
Notre Dame secretary, 47
Notre Dame typist, 39
European trip, 28, 53
family celebrations, 9–10
father, 1, 2, 6, 11, 14-16, 21, 26-27, 29, 36-37, 60, 288, 299
employment, 1, 4, 8–9
politics, 26–29
relationship with daughter, 4, 14–15, 306
and religion, 11–12
and WW II, 11
foods, 16–17
friends, 4, 18–19, 48, 310
gender roles, 30–32, 34
grandfather (maternal), 2, 6, 8, 305–306
grandfather (paternal), 2, 305
grandmother (maternal), 6, 36
grandmother (paternal), 2, 3–4, 14
husband, 10, 12, 13, 26, 62, 176, 221, 307
Chief Counsel for the Food and Drug Administration, 137-39, 308
marriage, 137–38
meeting of, 125, 135–37
parenting, 308
with Williams & Connolly, 135, 265, 308
James Whitcomb Riley High School, 24–27, 31, 306, 310
law school influences, 54–55, 58–59, 168
Lincoln Junior High School, 13, 18-19, 30
MIT, 37-38
mother, 1-3, 7-8, 16, 36, 48, 101, 299, 305-06
and education, 5–6, 14-15
siblings, 29–30
music, 18, 22-23
Northwestern summer program, 36-39
politics, 26–29, 193, 266, 306
reading, 15, 17–20, 25-28, 76, 312
religion, 11–13
sister, 7, 9–11, 20–21, 29
sons, 12, 67
Benjamin, 139, 220
Jonathan, 204, 221, 225, 266, 308–10
sports, 13–15, 18
step-children, 309
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teachers, 19–20, 23-25, 55, 80, 192, 204, 284, 306
Westinghouse Science Talent Search, 31, 38
Yale Law School, 14–15, 28, 54–56, 80
admissions, 59–60
courses, 61, 79-80, 90, 115
friends, 55, 73, 81
gender issues at, 43, 60, 64–67, 71–74, 76–78, 185, 313, 314
health care seminar, 88–89
Law Review, 89
moot court, 70
professors, 50-51, 59, 63-64, 67–69, 72–73, 90–91
summer jobs
Brademas internship, 28–29, 60–62, 94, 188
Irell & Manella law firm, 93-94
Law Students’ Civil Rights Research Council (LSCRRC), 82, 85
Ralph Nader project, 93–96
Areen, Judith C. – Professional
Advisory Committee to the Secretary of Defense on Women and the Services, 156
Associate Dean for Academics of Georgetown University Law Center, 146, 208-09, 239
Board of Governors of the District of Columbia Bar, 158-59
Board of Women’s Law in Public Policy Fellowship Program, 313
Cases and Materials on Family Law, 145
China trip, 214-220
on clerking, 110
conflict with President O’Donovan, 248, 251, 254
Dean of Georgetown University Law Center, 150, 152, 202
budgeting, 240-41
first year students, 53, 161–62, 1,24566
fundraising, 178, 211, 236, 241, 245-48, 252-53, 255, 269, 290
and alumni, 211, 246-47, 250, 254, 268
and donors, 184, 250, 280, 291-95, 324
and minority students, 71, 78–79
responsibilities, 233
selection process, 147, 155
sexual harassment policy, 44–45, 315
stress of position, 182
Democratic National Committee activities, 26, 125, 133
Deputy Counsel to the Credentials Committee, 134
Director of the Education Voucher Study, 102
Director of the Federal Legal Representation Project for OMB, 129
Faculty member of Georgetown University Law Center, 90, 104, 202
adjunct, 115
challenges, 116, 255
and child welfare statutes, 120, 122
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classes taught, 113, 125, 140-41, 198, 202, 249, 256-57, 260, 291-92, 303
judgement and decision-making seminar, 256–59, 264
Juvenile Justice Clinic, 115
medicine and law, 140–42, 203
problem-based approach to teaching, 156–60, 222
returning after deanship, 175–80
sabbaticals, 140, 146, 149, 152, 156, 227, 229
scholarship, 123-24, 188-89, 195, 248–49, 266
student evaluations, 186–88, 190–91
on tenure importance, 199
tenure process for herself, 192, 194-95
on faculty poaching, 237
General Counsel to President Carter’s Reorganization Project, 139
on government bureaucracy, 100, 129, 132, 139, 292
Higher Education and the Law, 303–304
on judgeship, 304
President of the Association of American Law Schools, 279
program planner for New York City Bureau of the Budget, 101
Special Counsel to the White House Task Force on Regulatory Reform, 132, 137
on student writing skills, 146, 168, 267-69
on tuition, 197, 230-31, 239, 243, 248, 300, 316
visiting professor at University of Michigan, 136, 194
on vouchers, 105–109
at Wilson Center for Scholars, 151, 234
Areen, Pauline Jeannette Payberg (mother), 1, 2, 8, 16, 23, 305, 307
and education, 5–6, 14, 15
siblings, 29–30
Areen, Richard (brother), 7, 10, 21
Areen, Tilly ([paternal grandmother), 2, 3–4, 14
Arlen, Jennifer, 228
Association of American Law Schools (AALS), 147, 272-73, 276-78
Ave Maria Law School, 210–11, 291–92, 317
Axtell, Margaret (“Margie”), 41, 53, 66, 72, 82
Baez, Joan, 280, 288
Balzer, Richard, 67
Bayh, Birch, 62
Bellamy, Edward, 143–44
Bierbower, James, 155
Black, Hugo, 61
Blair, Tony, 299
Born for Liberty (Sara Evans), 73
Brademas, John, 28, 60–64, 94, 188
Brest, Paul, 196, 257
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Brown, Edmund Gerald (“Jerry”), 280
Brown, Harold, 153
Brown University, 232, 290
Brown v. Board (case), 102
Cady, Elizabeth, 74
Califano, Joseph, 135
Carmichael, Stokeley, 76
Carp, Burt, 139
Carter, Barry, 80
Carter, James E., 125, 126, 128–30, 132–33, 139
Catholic University, 209, 211, 291
Century of Struggle (Eleanor Flexner), 73
Chayes, Abram, 168
Chemerinsky, Erwin, 282-86
child welfare statutes, 113–23, 300
China, 221
legal education, 214–16, 216
and political liberties, 219
vice chairman of the People’s Congress, 215, 219–20
Chosen, The (Jerome Karabel), 311
City University of New York, 98–99
class stratification, 312
Clinton, Hillary, 306
Coffin, Frank M., 107
Cohen, Stephen B., 81
Commission on Campus Unrest (Scranton Commission), 281–82
community colleges, 300–302
Conry, Kevin, 236
Cooper, Richard, 136
Cornblatt, Andrew, 60
Cornell University, 21, 37, 233, 304
graduates, 46–47
Jewish students, 33, 311
judiciary board, 21, 46, 54
segregation at, 32, 310–12
sexual harassment at, 42–44, 76
and social issues, 53–54, 312
speakers at, 48–49
women at, 65, 76
Corson, Dale, 49
Cuban missile crisis, 51-52
Dartmouth College, 199
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Dash, Sam, 115
Dean, John, 115-16
Dean, Paul, 175, 187–88, 201–202
Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), 296–97
DeGioia, John J., 145, 148
Democratic National Committee, 26, 125, 133–36
Desan, Christine, 221
Deutsch, Jan G., 93
Dewey, John, 278
District of Columbia Superior Court, 114, 118
Dobransky, Bernard, 210–11, 291
Drinan, Robert F., 209, 212–14, 246, 253
Duke University, 181, 232-33, 284
Easterbrook, Frank, 309
Edelman, Marion Wright, 83
Edelman, Peter, 82, 83, 230
Education Department (U.S.), 270
Elman, Philip, 95
Ernst, Daniel, 165, 237
Eskridge, William, 166, 237
Evans, Eli, 96–97
Evans, Sara, 73
Executive Order, 132
Falco, Mathea, 77
Falwell, Jerry, 277
family law, 79, 90–91, 110, 112-13, 118–19, 125, 140, 157, 176, 203, 223, 227, 249, 256
marriage issues, 291-92
Federal Trade Commission, 94, 95–96
Feinerman, James V., 241
Feminine Mystique (Betty Friedan), 75
Fifth Street Lawyers, 156
First Amendment rights, 281
Flexner, Eleanor, 73
Ford, Gerald, 61
Freud, Anna, 79, 90
Friedan, Betty, 14, 75
Friedman, Ann, 77
Friedman, Paul, 55
Gallagher, Monica, 109
Gann, Pam, 232
General Motors, 8–9
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Georgetown University Law Center, 59-60, 71, 109, 202–203
adjuncts, 190, 191–92, 264
alumni and fundraising, 239–41, 245–48
Catholic tradition, 209–12
clock tower, 174, 317
curricula, 110, 149, 163–69, 203, 222–24
dean selection process, 143–46, 148, 151, 229
donors, 178, 244, 274, 285–89, 317
endowment, 149, 225-26, 289-90, 316–17
ethics requirement, 116
executive vice presidents, 233–34
faculty angel, 193
faculty compensation, 197–98
faculty/student relationships, 45–46
female faculty, 45, 108–109, 114. 122–23, 143, 176, 180, 184–87, 193, 201–202
financial aid, 149, 173, 239, 242, 244, 268, 289-90, 316
five-year plan, 148, 229–31, 251-52
gay student organization, 206–208
Gewirz residence hall, 172-73
international law school, 170–71
inter-religious programs, 52
long-range plans, 148–49
physical campus, 170–74, 225, 315–16
sport and fitness center, 171
student rights, 281–82
student writing skills, 161–63, 260–64
Supreme Court Institute, 238
teaching significance, 123-24, 189–91
tenure process, 121–25, 188–89, 192–97
tuition, 224-25, 234-238, 300, 316
Watergate and, 115–16
Germany, 199, 278–79, 283
Ginsburg, Martin, 47, 174, 317
Ginsburg, Ruth, 47, 108
Ginsburg, Scott, 174, 317
Goldberg, Steven T., 264
Goldstein, Joseph, 90–92, 118–19
Gore, Albert, 132
Gottesman, Michael, 237
government bureaucracy, 100, 129–30, 139–40, 292
Grant, Robert, 38
Grassley, Charles E. (“Chuck”), 275, 289
Great Depression, 2–3, 75
Greenberger, Marcia, 313–14
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Gustafson, Charles H., 111
Hacker, Andrew, 54–59
Hall, Katherine, 45
Harvard Corporation, 180–81, 188, 250
Harvard University Law, 59, 82, 101-02, 129, 159, 250–51, 304
curriculum, 168, 222
Center for the Study of Public Policy, 102
endowment, 225, 226, 234, 238-39, 242, 289–90, 316
fundraising, 238-39
Harvard Civil Rights Civil Liberties Law Review, 110
Harvard Law Review, 136
tuition, 224-25, 243, 248, 300, 316
women
admission, 59
faculty, 112
Hayes, Frederick O’Reilly, 97
Healy, Timothy, 148, 154, 227, 236, 298
Heineman, Benjamin, 107
higher education
accreditation issues, 227, 269–72, 277-78
democracy and, 267–68
governance history, 249–51, 274, 282–84
politics of, 98–99
and social mobility, 299–300
Hope, Judith, 180
Hotung, Eric, 177, 253
informed consent, 146–47
Irell & Manella law firm, 96-97
Ishiguro, Kazuo, 183, 257
Jackson, Vicki C., 150
James, Fleming, 185
Jefferson, Thomas, 251
Jencks, Christopher, 102–103
Johnstone, Quintin, 110
juries, 268-69
Justice Department (U.S.), 8–9, 131-33, 136, 138, 144
Kagan, Elena, 232, 236
Katz, Jay, 90, 118–19, 203
Kelly, Michael, 254
Kendall, David, 62
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Kennedy, Anthony, 29
Kennedy, Duncan, 80
Kennedy, Edward, 213
Kennedy, John F., 27, 139, 306
assassination, 52
Kent State University, 281
Keohane, Nan, 181
Kessler, Frederick, 68–69
Khashoggi, Adnan, 288–89
King, Patricia A., 73, 109, 180-81, 184, 218, 250
Koh, Harold, 236
Kraakman, Reinier, 189
Kramer, John, 204, 230
Kronman, Tony, 179
Krupnick, Catherine, 189–90
Lang, Scott, 133-34
Langdell, Christopher Columbus, 157, 159–60, 163, 222
Langevoort, Donald C., 238
Law Student Admissions Council (LSAC), 272–73
Law Students’ Civil Rights Research Council (LSCRRC), 81, 84
Lawrence, Charles R., 86
Lazarus, Richard, 238
Lehman, Jeffrey S., 47
Levy, Howard, 85, 87–88
Lindsay, John, 97-98
Lovejoy, Arthur, 200
Luban, David J., 238
Macbeth, Angus, 81
marriage, 292–93
and children, 296
civil unions, 294–295
early state rules, 119
right to, 295–97
same-sex, 293–97
Marshall, Patricia Areen, 6-7
Martin, Anita, 109
Massachusetts, 250, 282, 293–95
Mazo, Judith F., 73
McCarthy, David, 149-50, 157, 180, 182-83
Dean of Georgetown Law Center, 212, 216-17, 235-37
McCord, James, 135
McGovern Rules, 125, 134–35
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McGuire, Patricia, 235, 239
McGuire, Timothy, 78
Meade, Margaret, 79
Meyer, Dennis I. (“Denny”), 146
Mizener, Arthur, 51-52
Mlyniec, Wallace, 114
Molina, Pablo, 52
Monaghan, Thomas, 291
Monk, Carl, 273
Moore, Mary, 66–67
Morgan, Charles, 84, 87-88
Nader, Ralph, 92–95
New York City, 97–100, 102, 117, 137, 232, 273
Nixon, Richard M., 27, 29, 101, 129-30, 306
nonprofits governance, 289
Notre Dame University, 31, 34-35, 37-39, 47
Obama, Barack, 279, 295, 312
O’Donovan, Leo J., 248, 251
Oldham, James, 144, 227
Olson, John, 274, 276
Orsy, Ladislas, 209
Oxford University, 64, 249–50, 282–83, 286-87, 312
Paulsen, Henry, 215
Payberg, Gertrude Sterling, 36
Payberg, Peter, 2, 6, 8, 305–306
Peller, Gary, 165
Pelosi, Nancy, 213
Perkins, James A., 48
Peters, Ellen, 72–73
Pickering, John, 155-56
Pitofsky, Robert, 96, 121, 151, 175-76, 197-98, 202
Dean of Georgetown Law Center, 142, 144-45, 173, 203–06, 227, 235
and gay rights case, 208
Pollak, Steve, 155-56
Posner, Richard A., 162
Powell, Adam Clayton, 62, 64
Princeton University, 224, 227-28, 232, 311–12
and donors, 287–88
problem-based approach to teaching, 156–60
Purdue, Wendy, 142
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Quinn, Kevin, 209
Raskin, Mark, 60–61
Reagan, Ronald, 129-30, 139
Red Cross, 274–76
Reeves, Ruth Leonard, 143
Regent Law School, 277–78
Reich, Charles, 110
Remains of the Day (Ishiguro), 257
Reno, Janet, 47
Richards, Ann, 310
Richardson, Elliott, 126, 130–31
Rockefeller, Nelson, 98
Rogers, Nancy, 273
Ross, Susan D., 45
Rothstein, Paul, 111
Rumsfeld, Donald, 101
Savio, Mario, 280
Schotland, Roy, 111
Schwartz, Herman, 73
Schwartz, Warren, 165
Scully, Vincent, 79
Seidman, Louis Michael, 71, 149, 165, 237
Shelton, Philip D., 272
Siegel, Norman, 84–86
Simon, Herbert, 259
Simon, John, 96
Sirica, John, 115
Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, 117-18
Solnit, Albert J., 90
South Bend, Indiana, 1, 4, 7-11, 13, 20, 33, 64, 106
and Notre Dame, 34, 37-38
political culture of 27–28, 31
Sparer, Edward, 88–89
Speth, Gus, 80-81
Stanford, Mrs. Leland, 200, 283
Steadman, John M., 111
Steinbinder, Helen, 108, 122–23, 201
Stevenson, Russell B., 82
Stewart, Potter, 107
Stoehr, Taylor, 107
Sullivan, Kathleen, 47, 232
Summers, Lawrence H., 181–82
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Supreme Court (U.S.), 61, 87, 107, 185, 199, 208, 238, 295-96
Supreme Court Institute, 238
Swanson, Jill, 310
Tamm, Edward A., 143, 227
Thorsen, Betty, 36–37
Trachtenberg, Stephen J., 63, 268, 270
Tucker, Marna, 155
Tushnet, Mark, 80, 124, 166, 237
University of California
Berkley, 279–81
Irvine–Law, 284
University of Virginia, 251
Vietnam War, 21, 26, 53–54, 71-72, 81, 85, 281, 312-14
vouchers, educational, 101–107, 302
Vukovich, William, 111
Wales, Pete, 111
Wasserstrom, Silas, 69–70
Watergate, 115–16, 135
Webster, Daniel, 199
Weinberger, Casper, 96
Weinreb, Lloyd, 221
Welford, Harrison, 128, 139
Wellington, Harry, 179
West, Robin, 238
White, James, 215, 272-73
Wilkins, Roger, 73
Willard, Emma, 74
Williams, Wendy, 45, 109, 180, 184
Wilson, Mary Ellen, 117–18
Wilson, Woodrow, 228, 311–12
women
administrators, 232–33
behavior expectations of, 14–16, 76, 187
and co-education, 36, 74, 311-12
and higher education, 36, 38, 43, 65-68, 71-72, 74, 181
law clerks, 106–108
law faculty, 45, 108–109, 111-12, 122-23, 180, 184–86, 193, 201–202
and law school, 44, 58–60, 71–73, 76, 80, 185, 201, 313
lawyers, 47, 93, 96, 113, 155, 184, 219, 313
and the military, 152–54
and money, 241–42
political history of, 73–75 a
and sexual harassment, 42–45
Women’s Law in Public Policy Fellowship Program, 313–14
Woodrow Wilson Center, 146, 227–29
World War I, 75
World War II, 75, 90, 311
Yale Law School, 168
and donors, 236, 287, 289–90
endowment, 289–90, 316
and women, 59, 65–69, 71–73, 76–77, 184-85, 311, 313–14
Ziegler, Edward, 14, 79
